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Post by Valen on Nov 2, 2004 20:23:11 GMT
How about a forum for Bladerunner which is one of the most amazing visionary films I've ever seen. I never get bored of watching it, the Directors cut anyway.
I've just read the book that Bladerunner was based on "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" and I'm amazed at how different it is from the film. Ridley Scott must have had a vision because I could never have saw what he made from the book. I still enjoyed it but I prefer the film which is something I have rarely say as the book always goes into so much more depth and emotion.
Anyone else read it?
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Post by Valen on Nov 3, 2004 7:22:47 GMT
Cheers Kev ;D
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Post by BigHairyKev on Nov 3, 2004 9:08:29 GMT
You wanted one Valen? You got one  It's the Members that make the Club what it is - being active on these Message Boards doesn't just earn you Promotion Points - it makes for a better Club. Thank YOU Valen for expanding EDF to cover Bladerunner - it's greatly appreciated |
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Post by Shadowflyer on Nov 3, 2004 10:51:37 GMT
Ahh, the Blade Runner. I saw the movie for the first time when I was quite the little girl. As you can imagine, I didn't understand much of it. But when I grew up I realized how fantastic and intelligent movie it actually is. Few years later I read the book, and it surely was quite different.
For me, the movie is the Number One, the Director's Cut I mean. I liked the thoughts the movie raised: what separates a replicant from a human if they are able to cry and grieve? Do replicants earn human rights? I've seen the movie several times and it still makes me think.
Book was actually a slight disappointment. It didn't bring out the same thoughts and it showed androids only as machines. Therefore Scott's idea of Blade Runner is much better than Philip K. Dick's. It is more humane, more intelligent. That's at least how I see it.
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Post by Valen on Nov 3, 2004 18:33:52 GMT
Hello Shadowflyer, welcome aboard ;D
I was surprised in the book that he was already married and how Rachel was portrayed. nothing liek in the film (one of my fav characters in the film) - and how easy the jumped into bed together so she could get her/the compnaies own way. much prefer film Rachel.
what you think of BR Kev?
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Post by BigHairyKev on Nov 4, 2004 13:26:35 GMT
It's not one of my faves - but I do love Roy's speech at the end - a magnificent scene  I'm a fan of Vangelis - so it's nice to hear his music as the Soundtrack. It's also cool to see Harrison Ford playing a different kind of role - you can see the agony and stress on his face as Rutger breaks his fingers - great acting. The cityscapes look amazing - and the chase at the end is done well - but overall I find it a bit pretentious - but it did try to create a different view of the future - which is probably nearer the truth than other Sci-Fi of the time. |
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Post by BigHairyKev on Nov 6, 2004 14:16:39 GMT
Ahh, the Blade Runner. I saw the movie for the first time when I was quite the little girl. As you can imagine, I didn't understand much of it. But when I grew up I realized how fantastic and intelligent movie it actually is. Few years later I read the book, and it surely was quite different. For me, the movie is the Number One, the Director's Cut I mean. I liked the thoughts the movie raised: what separates a replicant from a human if they are able to cry and grieve? Do replicants earn human rights? I've seen the movie several times and it still makes me think. Book was actually a slight disappointment. It didn't bring out the same thoughts and it showed androids only as machines. Therefore Scott's idea of Blade Runner is much better than Philip K. Dick's. It is more humane, more intelligent. That's at least how I see it. As you've shown an interest - you're now a Moderator on this Section - along with Valen who suggested the original creation of it |
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Post by Shadowflyer on Nov 7, 2004 10:43:38 GMT
It's not one of my faves - but I do love Roy's speech at the end - a magnificent scene I'm a fan of Vangelis - so it's nice to hear his music as the Soundtrack. It's also cool to see Harrison Ford playing a different kind of role - you can see the agony and stress on his face as Rutger breaks his fingers - great acting. The cityscapes look amazing - and the chase at the end is done well - but overall I find it a bit pretentious - but it did try to create a different view of the future - which is probably nearer the truth than other Sci-Fi of the time. Yeah, Blade Runner really is an intelligent scifi-movie. There are so many dumb scifi-films that is nice to know there is at least one which doesn't underestimate the viewer. Okay, I admit, brainless movies can be entertaining, but you know what I mean. Can you think of any other "smart" scifi- movie? In my opinion The Terminator is pretty smart, maybe it's kinda typical and guessable but it made me think a lot of timetravelling. *ouch* Lots of headache  |
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Post by hawklan on Nov 27, 2004 23:21:35 GMT
BHK - I read somewhere that Roys speach was written in his trailer by Rutger H, got to be in the top ten speaches in a movie ever ( alongside Jack Nicholson in " A few good men "), I really thought Rutger starred in Bladerunner, a totally captivating performence that had me in tears at the end.
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Dec 8, 2004 22:52:46 GMT
How about a forum for Bladerunner which is one of the most amazing visionary films I've ever seen. I never get bored of watching it, the Directors cut anyway. I've just read the book that Bladerunner was based on "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" and I'm amazed at how different it is from the film. Ridley Scott must have had a vision because I could never have saw what he made from the book. I still enjoyed it but I prefer the film which is something I have rarely say as the book always goes into so much more depth and emotion. Anyone else read it?
VALEN,
I can't get over this forum, as we just shot an intro piece yesternight about MR. PHILIP KINDRED DICK'S DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?TM & BLADE RUNNERTM, which I delivered to a TV station this morning! 
I think the book is the single best example of Black Comedy I have ever read in the Science Fiction genre, & I kill myself laughing whenever I read it, particularly the passages wherein DECKARD'S wife is berating him about their sheep automaton, which really illuminated the scene in the screen adaptation when DECKARD asks the dancer whether her snake is real.
As for the film versions, I prefer the version that preceded The Director's Cut, despite my knowledge that MR. HARRISON FORD was attempting to sabotage the narration by reading it badly.
To my mind, the narration by DECKARD further enhances the Film Noir sensibility of SIR RIDLEY SCOTT'S film, whereas the inclusion of unicorn footage from LEGENDTM, a film that was released 3 years afterward, struck me as rather dishonest, given that it seems to have been intended as a red herring to deceive certain Audients to infer that DECKARD is a Replicant.
I have yet to read FUTURE NOIR: THE MAKING OF BLADE RUNNERTM, but I fully expect that I shall enjoy it thoroughly when I do so. |
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Dec 14, 2004 21:44:59 GMT
<SNIP> For me, the movie is the Number One, the Director's Cut I mean. I liked the thoughts the movie raised: what separates a replicant from a human if they are able to cry and grieve? Do replicants earn human rights? I've seen the movie several times and it still makes me think. Book was actually a slight disappointment. It didn't bring out the same thoughts and it showed androids only as machines. Therefore Scott's idea of Blade Runner is much better than Philip K. Dick's. It is more humane, more intelligent. That's at least how I see it.
SHADOWFLYER,
For me, the demarcation point between Homo sapiens & Replicant was very clear, for in both book & film, the manner in which the latter interacted with animals was a bit "off".
That said, however, I was not someone who imediately decided that SIR RIDLEY SCOTT'S picture was The Greatest Science Fiction Film Ever Made, as many others have done, but I was sufficiently intrigued & entertained that I bought MR. PHILIP KINDRED DICK'S book & the MARVEL COMICS GROUPTM adaptations that were also released.
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Post by gatescaper on Mar 31, 2005 22:55:22 GMT
I watched Blade Runner back in the 80's and absolutely hated it. I watched it again in the 90's and was amazed at how good it was. How does that work?
Does anyone know where I can see a copy of Roy's speech?
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Post by BigHairyKev on May 11, 2005 11:37:08 GMT
I watched Blade Runner back in the 80's and absolutely hated it. I watched it again in the 90's and was amazed at how good it was. How does that work? Does anyone know where I can see a copy of Roy's speech? You mean his speech from the end of the movie? |
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Jul 7, 2005 5:02:41 GMT
I watched Blade Runner back in the 80's and absolutely hated it. I watched it again in the 90's and was amazed at how good it was. How does that work? Does anyone know where I can see a copy of Roy's speech?
Welcome to the domain!
Do you recall what it was about the original (narrated) edition of BLADE RUNNER™ that you “absolutely hated” so much?
Could it be that you had disliked the narration (which I love!), & that you “re-watched” The Director’s Cut edition, instead, minus the narration, but which incorporated the unicorn footage that had been shown in SIR RIDLEY SCOTT’S LEGEND™? |
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