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Post by BigHairyKev on Aug 24, 2004 17:09:33 GMT
I'm just hunting some pics of the Newborn for Malcolm to study  |
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Post by BigHairyKev on Aug 24, 2004 17:16:40 GMT
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Post by BigHairyKev on Aug 24, 2004 17:20:17 GMT
The Newborns' gender was apparently female as it was an Alien/Ripley Mix  |
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Post by ladytass2001 on Aug 25, 2004 2:35:54 GMT
I alway's thought of it as a queen, do to the fact that Ripley had a queen inside of her and their would have needed to be a queen to continue on with the evolution of the alien's,I also took it for granted that the reason that it had killed the alien queen is that it saw it as a threat and not as an allie.I guess I also took it for granted that it thought it was more like ripley than like the alien.
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Post by BigHairyKev on Aug 25, 2004 20:35:21 GMT
The Queen that Ripley had inside of her at the end of "Alien 3" WAS also cloned from blood left at Fury 161. As we see from "Alien: Resurrection" - there were a series of failed clones - as we see in the lab - but the DNA had merged too much in the first seven attempts. I'd like to add here that part of the Alien DNA and reproductive system has an unusual feature - an embrio will take a "snap-shot" of the host it is inside - and merge some of the hosts' DNA with it's own - this is why the "Dogburster" from "Alien 3" ran on all fours and had hind legs like a dog. This is simply to help the emergent "Chestburster" adapt to it's new surroundings. Ripley 8 DID have a Queen inside her - which we see being removed at the start of the forth Movie - both Ripley and the Queen shared each others DNA - due to the Aliens' "snap-shot" and the cloning procedure. It is for this reason that the Alien Queen gave rise to Alien Warriors as normal and then went into a second reproductive cycle and her womb adapted from an egg laying sack to a gestation womb - and that was how the "Newborn" was created. The "Newborn" would HAVE to be a Queen as it was the first of it's kind and would need to continue the new sub-species. Incidentally - an Alien Warrior out of range of a Queen would also adapt in a similar fashion - it would not normally reproduce - but if it found itself alone then some of it's back-up reproduction would kick in  If seperated from the "Hive" - the Warrior would grow taller than normal and start to develop a Queen Egg within it's body - which would consume the Warriors body after a while - as the bodies resources were absorbed by the gestation of the Queen. That's why the Warrior in the first Movie was alot bigger than Alien Warrior seen in "Aliens", "Alien 3" and "Alien: Resurrection" |
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Aug 26, 2004 4:31:19 GMT
THU. AUG. 26/2004/24:51 E.S.T.
BHK,
Thanks for the intel.
These photographs filled me with a revulsion that the Newborn did not cause me to feel while I was sitting in the cinema.
Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the lifepod…! 
Did you glean all that knowledge from books published about the ALIEN™ reproductive cycle, or is it theories of your own?
I ask this only because aside from that canine ALIEN3™ business, the rest of it was not made clear to me in any of the 5 films we have seen to date.
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LADYTASS,
Thank you for that explanation.
The fact that the Newborn was *capable* of killing the ALIEN QUEEN™ was reason enough that the former be destroyed, to my mind.
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Post by BigHairyKev on Aug 27, 2004 19:21:21 GMT
...Did you glean all that knowledge from books published about the ALIEN™ reproductive cycle, or is it theories of your own?... I studied the Alien from Books, Comics, Background Stories, Conceptual Artwork & various "Making of.." Documentaries. I also admit that when I first viewed Alien 4 - I assumed the Newborn was male too - and just a new kind of Warrior Caste |
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Aug 29, 2004 1:14:45 GMT
I studied the Alien from Books, Comics, Background Stories, Conceptual Artwork & various "Making of.." Documentaries. I also admit that when I first viewed Alien 4 - I assumed the Newborn was male too - and just a new kind of Warrior Caste
Acknowledged, thanks for the intel.
When I saw ALIEN RESURRECTION™ @ the cinema, I inferred from the Newborn’s behaviour toward RIPLEY 8 that the former was male rather than female, rather than its outward appearance. |
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Post by FanNumber1701 on Sept 9, 2004 19:15:31 GMT
Incredible pictures. I always thought it was male!
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Sept 9, 2004 19:24:18 GMT
Incredible pictures. I always thought it was male!
FN1701,
I grok the fullness of the totality! ;D |
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Post by geordilinka on Sept 16, 2004 15:07:57 GMT
so if she is female.... she must be the end of the line..
as i didi not see a male being born.
or is there more that we left behind
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Sept 20, 2004 3:46:49 GMT
so if she is female.... she must be the end of the line.. as i didi not see a male being born. or is there more that we left behind
GEORDI,
Given that RIPLEY 8 yet lives, I would contend that THE NEWBORN is *not* “the end of the line”, since we have already seen how unpredictable RIPLEY 8’S behaviour became when she found herself in the presence of the all-enveloping hivemind of the ALIEN™ collective.
Who knows what she will do when she finds herself on Earth, & confronted by the corporation & its other unnatural abominations? |
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Post by Klagnon9 on Mar 9, 2005 17:09:25 GMT
The alien race is a Matryarch system and like bee's there can only be one queen in a hive.The new born was female and it killed the queen because there can only be one.Also given the massive size of the universe there has to be by pure laws of nature more than one hive.....roger and out.
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Post by ladytass2001 on Mar 9, 2005 17:13:46 GMT
Klagnon9, Good observation,and welkcome to the boards!!! glad to have you here.
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Mar 14, 2005 0:28:46 GMT
The alien race is a Matryarch system and like bee's there can only be one queen in a hive.The new born was female and it killed the queen because there can only be one.Also given the massive size of the universe there has to be by pure laws of nature more than one hive.....roger and out.
That makes sense; thank you. |
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